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mad men: "love among the ruins"


It's so nice to come to the end of the weekend and look forward to something on tv. I love this show.  This week's episode for those of us that don't have the iTunes season pass and didn't get the release last Monday:

Episode 2: Love Among the Ruins
Betty gets a visit from her father. Sterling Cooper grapples with a very specific client request. Roger makes arrangements for a wedding. Peggy becomes personally affected by a campaign.

Roger planning a wedding? The writers love us. Grab your martini and join in the discussion.

Comments

tomfoolery815
Aug. 29th, 2009 04:42 am (UTC)
She's already defied two major social norms -- she's had a baby out of wedlock and she's a female ad-man. I saw this as an extension of that --- she's making her own rules.
That could very well be the case, Mary. Because picking a guy with whom to hook up is certainly not in line with the social norm for a "proper" woman in '63. But she is refusing to let societal norms define her or dictate her behavior.

I don't mean that she wants to be a guy. I think she's thinking "I'm a Madison Avenue copywriter; Madison Avenue copywriters go out and hook up with people if they want; I'm going to hook up with someone."

You might be right about that; maybe I'm a) putting more of a modern mind-set on Peggy
You are. But so is she. :-)

and b) giving her more credit for really taking charge of her own life than she deserves.
I don't think you are. She is taking charge of her own life. That includes doing what she wants to do.
marymary
Aug. 30th, 2009 05:31 pm (UTC)
I don't mean that she wants to be a guy. I think she's thinking "I'm a Madison Avenue copywriter; Madison Avenue copywriters go out and hook up with people if they want

Yeah, I knew exactly what you meant. :-) I still don't know whether I think it's that or whether she's being truly revolutionary. I'll have to mull for a few more episodes. :-)
tomfoolery815
Aug. 30th, 2009 07:45 pm (UTC)
We do seem to be harmonizing, yes. :-)

I still don't know whether I think it's that or whether she's being truly revolutionary.
Too early to tell, probably. As a woman having casual sex (OK, only once so far), she's not without precedent; she had to know Bobbie and Don were having sex when she bailed Don out.

It occurs to me that Peggy has been/is taking guidance from several sources, and to varying degrees: Joan, then Don, then Bobbie, even Roger a little bit. And when trying to break the ice with men, she could certainly do worse than to steal one of Joan's lines.

I'll have to mull for a few more episodes. :-)
Me, too. Clearly, more study is required. :-)