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mad men: "the gypsy and the hobo"


Episode 11? My how time flies.

Season 3, Episode 11: The Gypsy and the Hobo
A former client returns to Sterling Cooper.  Betty takes the kids on a trip.  Joan and Greg plan for their future.

Yay! Joan. I fear for Sally just reading the description of the episode. Poor Sally. (You just Betty will demonstrate her mother of the year qualities.)

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tomfoolery815
Oct. 26th, 2009 06:59 pm (UTC)
Slow clap, if you'd be so kind, for Jon Hamm and January Jones, please. I thought they were both just incredible from the moment Don walked in to find the family, surprisingly, home early.

I thought it was spot-on that Don would tell Betty that he divorced Anna "the minute I met you," and that Betty would call him on it, having pored over every detail she found in that box.

The thing is, IMO in his mind he did divorce Anna the moment he met Betty, i.e., once he'd fallen in love with Betty. He went out to California and excitedly ("in the lavender haze") told Anna he was in love, and that that meant they had to divorce. Marrying Betty meant establishing his own Don Draper identity, one with no connection to the real Don Draper or Dick Whitman. Issues of legality aside, there was no going back.

If you rewatch, check out the way JH says "Uncle Mack. He was nice to me." It's the way a little boy would say it. Devastating.
flippet
Oct. 27th, 2009 10:44 pm (UTC)
Slow clap, if you'd be so kind, for Jon Hamm and January Jones, please. I thought they were both just incredible from the moment Don walked in to find the family, surprisingly, home early.

*clap clap clap*

Absolutely. That was most certainly Emmy-worthy. The moment that got me? Betty pulling the keys out of Don's fingers.

It was nice to see the honesty and sincerity from Don; I expected more resistance, if at a rather low level.

I wonder how this will change their relationship, or if it will. Perhaps things have been too damaged from so many years of instinctual wall-building.
tomfoolery815
Oct. 26th, 2009 07:08 pm (UTC)
I was at work during the 9 o'clock hour, so I couldn't quite hear the collective national cheer when Joan smashed the vase on Greg's head. But I'm sure there was one. :-) Actually, Greg? Joanie knows exactly what it's like to "want something your whole life, to count on it, to plan for it, and to not get it!"

And then, just when he's apologizing like an adult ... he's joined the Army. I couldn't tell if Joan was disappointed, happy or just stunned. Well, when he comes back from Vietnam in a body bag, she can start over with a man who deserves her.

I really liked the Joan/Roger interaction in this one. Roger may have been The One for Annabelle (in her eyes), but there seems to be a suggestion that, in Roger's mind, Joan may have been The One for Roger. Anyone else get that impression? Or are they just ex-lovers who still really like each other?

"Look at you, figuring things out for yourself!" Nice. :-)
flippet
Oct. 27th, 2009 10:38 pm (UTC)
but there seems to be a suggestion that, in Roger's mind, Joan may have been The One for Roger. Anyone else get that impression? Or are they just ex-lovers who still really like each other?

It's hard to say - maybe a little of both? I think there have been other indications that Roger believes he made a huge mistake letting Joan go.

But on the other hand - some people are only The One when they're The One Who Got Away.

edgeriffic
Oct. 28th, 2009 01:37 am (UTC)
...the collective national cheer when Joan smashed the vase on Greg's head. But I'm sure there was one. :-) ... Well, when he comes back from Vietnam in a body bag, she can start over with a man who deserves her.

Well-put, sir, as was this, along the same lines, from the TWoP recaplet:


Greg then effs up his interviews and says he doesn't want to be a shrink, and his ensuing childish outburst causes Joan to break a vase over his head, which is what I'd call "a good start." Greg then apologizes and joins the Army so he can become a surgeon again, which hopefully means he'll be shipped off to Vietnam and we'll see him nevermore.
tomfoolery815
Oct. 28th, 2009 04:48 pm (UTC)
Thanks. :-)
tomfoolery815
Oct. 28th, 2009 04:56 pm (UTC)
I wonder how this will change their relationship, or if it will. Perhaps things have been too damaged from so many years of instinctual wall-building.
I think it will in the long run, Flipcy. Betty will surely make him eat it for a while, and she's earned that. Full disclosure and all.

Don seems like an inveterate womanizer. But if anything could break him out of that, having had to tell Betty everything might be a transformative moment for him. She is now the primary keeper of his biggest secret. That can deepen Don's fear of being exposed, but it can also deepen his trust in Betty.

(Of course Bert Cooper also knows, but when he called in his marker with the contract negotiation, he indicated that he has no problem with preserving the Don Draper facade. It's good for business, after all.)

tomfoolery815
Oct. 28th, 2009 05:01 pm (UTC)
But on the other hand - some people are only The One when they're The One Who Got Away.
Good point! The heart attack seemed to break them up, then she went off and found herself a handsome young doctor. (And thought all was well ...)
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