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episode 8: the summer man


Last week's episode was easily in the top 5 of all Mad Men episodes. Words cannot express just how much I enjoyed that episode.

So the big question is how will Weiner follow up last week's epic episode? 

(And how long until Weiner finds a way to fire the person who accidentally posted the clips to episode 8 on the AMC website instead of episode 7.)


Episode 8: The Summer Man

Joan and Peggy deal with high-jinx in the office.



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marymary
Sep. 19th, 2010 03:11 am (UTC)
FINALLY catching up. Hi, guys!

In some ways I can see Joan's point, but I also think Peggy made the right move. Don would have fired him; why would Peggy act any differently? Being feared as a humorless bitch might not be that bad of a deal for Peggy; there are other potholes for being seen as "one of the guys" for her, too.

This is exactly how I felt about it, amy. And, on further reflection, I think maybe Joan and Peggy are equally "right" but that Joan is using an older perspective. As a secretary, she has learned how to weild a lot of power, but in less direct ways. She plants seeds, she goes through Lane. (As you said, Tom, "without her fingerprints on it.") Don reminded Peggy that she's an executive. She can execute. :) Too bad for Peggy that she wholly swallowed Joan's POV in that elevator, and now feels bad about her decision.

By the way, did Joey suddenly and drastically become a lazy, sexist asshole? Like, for the purposes of this episode? If so, I'm not pleased. But it could be that his cuteness had blinded me to his bad qualities (more mildly displayed) until now. What do you think? The mother stuff reeked of retcon to me.

gatz I agree that you'd much rather fire him for his poor work. It's so hard to decide what to think because this is the 60s -- faced with that behavior TODAY, I would find it HIGHLY relevant to job performance. Someone who's refusing to follow orders of his supervisor and harrassing co-workers? But then I'd also fire him for drinking in the office. :) See what I mean? I still think he was pretty firable. All of a sudden. :)

Tom, I agree with your take on Betty's feelings at the restaurant. And I thought it was interesting that, though Henry said the problem was Betty's reaction to Don, Betty then let it go. Henry was the one holding onto it -- he disinvited Don to Gene's birthday without telling Betty.

Best line of the episode: "I feel like I'm Margaret Mead."
tomfoolery815
Sep. 19th, 2010 03:36 am (UTC)
MARY! I'm glad you made it. :)

Best line of the episode: "I feel like I'm Margaret Mead."
That was a fantastic line, wasn't it? It happened so early in the episode that I forgot about it until you repeated it, apparently. EM's delivery was perfect, too.

By the way, did Joey suddenly and drastically become a lazy, sexist asshole? Like, for the purposes of this episode?
He gave Joan some backtalk in the previous episode, IIRC. But it escalated considerably in this one, to be sure. He had not been that guy from the start, the way Freddie Rumsen was The Drunk or Paul Kinsey was The Pretentious One, where that aspect of their personality was established early.

And I thought it was interesting that, though Henry said the problem was Betty's reaction to Don, Betty then let it go. Henry was the one holding onto it
That was interesting, wasn't it? We'd expect Betty to cling to the jealousy, wouldn't we? I would have, anyway.

It appears as though Henry thought about the implications of Betty's response, and got pissed about it. They passed the jealousy baton.