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Mad Men: Lady Lazarus

Season 5, Episode 8: Lady Lazarus
Peggy is irritated by a secret she has to keep. Pete covers for a friend and Don gets unexpected news.

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tomfoolery815
May. 7th, 2012 03:10 am (UTC)
Last things first: Once I could see that Megan was inviting Don to listen to Rubber Soul, I just knew the song she was suggesting was Tomorrow Never Knows.

I suppose it shouldn't surprise us that Don wouldn't make it through the whole song. If he's wondering when music became so important, he's definitely not ready for the song that was a sneak preview of Sgt. Pepper. :)

Back in a bit.


gatsbyfan
May. 7th, 2012 03:16 am (UTC)
First things first... Rory Gilmore is too good for Pete Campbell. Your husband may be cheating on you but Pete...he's not your guy.

But I sort of feel sorry for Pete because he really is miserable.

Tomorrow Never Knows
Yeah, it's not a surprise that he wouldn't make it through the entire song. Their generational differences are starting to become more and more apparent.


I LOVED the scene with the Cool Whip folks.
Megan is not the problem.
You didn’t want her there. You were threatened by everything about her.
I spent more time training...

Of course Peggy is going to bear the brunt of his reaction to Megan leaving.
gatsbyfan
May. 7th, 2012 03:27 am (UTC)
I really loved Peggy's reaction to Megan leaving. She was upset because she's throwing away a promising career. Peggy tells Megan that she is talented.

Interesting that Peggy and Don have similar reactions. Megan's got talent and they are disappointed that she's leaving. Because her dream isn't advertising.

I have to say I was impressed with Don. He's growing. He's clearly not happy with Megan's decision but he's being supportive.

Bless Joan. I loved how she told Peggy that she thought Megan would fail.

This episode didn't have a lot of favorite lines. But Ginsberg's Turn it off. It’s stabbing me in the art. was good. That music was NOT the Beatles. And it wasn't very good.

More tomorrow. I need to go to bed.
tomfoolery815
May. 7th, 2012 04:31 am (UTC)
Your husband may be cheating on you but Pete...he's not your guy.
If only she knew all that we know about Pete. Obviously meeting someone in whom, she correctly guesses, Howard has confided about his infidelity is more than "Rory" can take.

But Pete clearly has feelings for her -- conniving to go back to Howard and Rory's house? Sheesh, Pete -- and it would appear that she has feelings for him. This won't end well ... for somebody.

But I sort of feel sorry for Pete because he really is miserable.
Truly. I think he thought he was going to get the mistress he thinks he deserves, but of course he goes about it in the same impulsive manner he did the day he saw Duck's dog, thought he should get a dog, then decided he should go home with some blonde woman. No, Pete, it's wife in the suburbs, mistress in the city. (GOB Bluth voice) C'mon!
marymary
May. 7th, 2012 04:33 am (UTC)
I agree, gatz, I liked Peggy's reaction to Megan leaving. Mostly because she came all the way from disapproval/disappointment/bewilderment to acceptance/admiration. And then back again, a little bit. :) She started out shocked that Megan would throw away a career in ADVERTISING. *angels sing* But then sees that it's Megan's dream and it's actually the more independent choice, all Dons considered.

And I love how Joan boils it all down to Don's pattern of marrying two-bit entertainers. :)

Favorite lines:

Peggy to the boys: "HEY! Megan's talking to you."

Ginsberg's reaction to Megan resigning: "She owes me like 15 dollars at this point..."

Pete: "...do they make you feel small and insignificant?"
Harry: "No, Jennifer does that."

Don: "I was raised in the 30s. My dream was indoor plumbing."

Roger: "Jane wanted a baby, but I thought, 'Why do that to somebody?'"

THE BEST:

Roger watches Pete awkwardly gather up the skis and poles and leave his office: "And I got to see that."


tomfoolery815
May. 7th, 2012 04:42 am (UTC)
I have to say I was impressed with Don. He's growing. He's clearly not happy with Megan's decision but he's being supportive.
He really is.

Megan is not the problem.
You didn’t want her there. You were threatened by everything about her.
I spent more time training...

It's interesting that each fires at the other with their perception of the other's feelings about Megan, and they're both wrong. Peggy was thoroughly supportive of Megan, but she is pissed that Megan is giving up on something she's good at. I really liked her telling Joan that she thinks Megan is just good at everything.

Of course Peggy is going to bear the brunt of his reaction to Megan leaving.
Don's supportive of Megan's pursuit of her dream, but as you point out he's also disappointed that she's giving up advertising. So yeah, he's going to throw his misperceptions at Peggy.

Loved when they pulled back and showed that the female Cool Whip person was still in the room. The depth of Peggy and Don's friendship is such that they're up to having it out in front of strangers.

Bless Joan. I loved how she told Peggy that she thought Megan would fail.
Yeah, Joan has come to like and respect Peggy, but she isn't quite on board the Sisterhood Train just yet.
tomfoolery815
May. 7th, 2012 04:45 am (UTC)
She started out shocked that Megan would throw away a career in ADVERTISING. *angels sing*
Hee! Well characterized, Mary. :)

Roger watches Pete awkwardly gather up the skis and poles and leave his office: "And I got to see that."
That was fun. Man, Kartheiser is really good at the physical comedy. Clearly there won't be a lot of that on Mad Men, but I've noticed they almost go to Pete for that.
marymary
May. 7th, 2012 04:50 am (UTC)
I agree, Tom, Pete is impulsive, bumbling and just wrong. Credit to Vincent Kartheiser for making me feel some kind of sympathy for Pete in this pathetic situation.

Didn't last long though. :) ...

Pete: "Why do they get to decide what's going to happen?"

Um... because they have several answers, namely "Yes, No, Not Yet, and Maybe If Things Change." And you have one answer: "Yes." That's why.

But the more fundamental thing is holy cow, Pete, really? Women are in charge? In your world? It's nothing new, the Poor Me version of misogyny, and it absolutely works on Pete. But in the context of all the sexual discrimination of the show, it's breathtaking.
marymary
May. 7th, 2012 04:54 am (UTC)
I really liked her telling Joan that she thinks Megan is just good at everything.

I liked that too, Tom! Like I said, I liked that Peggy started out all disapproving and then came around when she saw it from a different perspective.
tomfoolery815
May. 7th, 2012 04:59 am (UTC)
But the more fundamental thing is holy cow, Pete, really? Women are in charge? In your world? It's nothing new, the Poor Me version of misogyny, and it absolutely works on Pete. But in the context of all the sexual discrimination of the show, it's breathtaking.
Well, this is the same guy who said, with a straight face, "Why can't I have everything I want when I want it?" There are members of royal families who don't have Pete's sense of entitlement. He wants an affair, and really likes the beautiful woman who agreed to have sex with him, so why can't he have it?

So yes, Pete Campbell, in 1966, could spin rejection of further extramarital sex from a married woman into "women get to decide." And Harry is unenlightened enough to agree.
tomfoolery815
May. 7th, 2012 05:07 am (UTC)
Like I said, I liked that Peggy started out all disapproving and then came around when she saw it from a different perspective.
I think seeing Megan cry at the prospect of leaving SCDP brought Peggy around. Her initial reaction was along the lines of, to borrow your phrase, "don't you hear the angels singing? How dare you!" But the tears, I think, made her realize that SCDP did matter to Megan, that she wasn't just being a dilettante about it.

Goodman had a great line about Megan being sweet. (Found it: "Whatever you think about Megan, Jessica Pare has really given her a sweetness and optimism.") Megan wants to chase her dream, but she genuinely feels bad about leaving the team in the lurch and leaving work undone. It's almost as if the tears flipped a switch in Peggy, and led her to the "good at everything" perspective.

Edited at 2012-05-07 05:07 am (UTC)
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